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	<title>Comments on: Next Generation Pastebins</title>
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		<title>By: streaky</title>
		<link>http://mybrokenlogic.com/2010/03/06/next-generation-pastebins/comment-page-1/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>streaky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 11:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen it, played with it. It&#039;s definitely got potential. When I first looked at it I was looking for something a bit richer for the main static paste some text and &#039;let me get on with&#039; it interface, I decided it was a bit chunky.

That said, for a collaborative interface it obviously matters less about the weight of the thing and is on my list. The server stuff I may rewrite but the client side is well put together.

gist.github.com is a great tool, though for most people&#039;s needs of course it&#039;s too much. Most of the traffic paste2 gets isn&#039;t even code so there&#039;s room for a middle ground. Most people who use paste2 probably don&#039;t know what git is and probably don&#039;t care so a pure dev solution probably isn&#039;t going to get it done. I want the new pase2 to be as good for Joe Average readers with no interest in creating pastes as it is for developers to create pastes.

The new code does better with trees of pastes (you can see the entire tree all the way to the root paste down to the bottom all at once), and has graphical 2-way diffs to compare any paste with another even if they&#039;re not in the same tree. Combined with the way paste2 releases old pastes bad revisions will get thrown out of the tree and useful items are kept without any intervention.

Thanks for the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen it, played with it. It&#8217;s definitely got potential. When I first looked at it I was looking for something a bit richer for the main static paste some text and &#8216;let me get on with&#8217; it interface, I decided it was a bit chunky.</p>
<p>That said, for a collaborative interface it obviously matters less about the weight of the thing and is on my list. The server stuff I may rewrite but the client side is well put together.</p>
<p>gist.github.com is a great tool, though for most people&#8217;s needs of course it&#8217;s too much. Most of the traffic paste2 gets isn&#8217;t even code so there&#8217;s room for a middle ground. Most people who use paste2 probably don&#8217;t know what git is and probably don&#8217;t care so a pure dev solution probably isn&#8217;t going to get it done. I want the new pase2 to be as good for Joe Average readers with no interest in creating pastes as it is for developers to create pastes.</p>
<p>The new code does better with trees of pastes (you can see the entire tree all the way to the root paste down to the bottom all at once), and has graphical 2-way diffs to compare any paste with another even if they&#8217;re not in the same tree. Combined with the way paste2 releases old pastes bad revisions will get thrown out of the tree and useful items are kept without any intervention.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Moe</title>
		<link>http://mybrokenlogic.com/2010/03/06/next-generation-pastebins/comment-page-1/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Moe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 05:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried Mozilla&#039;s Bespin editor? It&#039;s collab, has a plugin interface and a (pseudo?)-shell to the server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried Mozilla&#8217;s Bespin editor? It&#8217;s collab, has a plugin interface and a (pseudo?)-shell to the server.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Moe</title>
		<link>http://mybrokenlogic.com/2010/03/06/next-generation-pastebins/comment-page-1/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Moe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 00:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wholeheartedly agree! Since there is gist.github.com I realized how convenient it is to have the possibility to paste something and have others revise it. 

While not really related with pastebins I would like to see IRC being rewritten. It stems from a time when people used terminals to communicate and had slow 2400 baud lines.
Today it would be so much nicer to have IRC channels with connected collab-spaces (not as a web-service, but part of the protocol) with firewall-proof file-exchange, private messaging, VoIP and collab editing as well as organizing. A crossover of IRC+XDCC, Google Wave, Google Docs and VoIP. But not as something new, instead as &quot;IRC NextGeneration&quot;.

Oh my! :-) Till then I would like to have a pastebin, that lets us set up temporal workspaces, with a simple (! git may be too resource-hungry) history-control, the possibility to take any text from the history, edit it (collab if desired), making it a new revision, and also (!) be able to share pictures and other binaries like PDFs.

For example, right now I hang around on freenode, trying to put together an xsl-fo. I talk with people. We have so much to write in the chan, that could be much more easily expressed in code in a collab editor. In addition I need to post my experimental PDF output so the others see what is going on.

And always keep an API! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wholeheartedly agree! Since there is gist.github.com I realized how convenient it is to have the possibility to paste something and have others revise it. </p>
<p>While not really related with pastebins I would like to see IRC being rewritten. It stems from a time when people used terminals to communicate and had slow 2400 baud lines.<br />
Today it would be so much nicer to have IRC channels with connected collab-spaces (not as a web-service, but part of the protocol) with firewall-proof file-exchange, private messaging, VoIP and collab editing as well as organizing. A crossover of IRC+XDCC, Google Wave, Google Docs and VoIP. But not as something new, instead as &#8220;IRC NextGeneration&#8221;.</p>
<p>Oh my! <img src='http://mybrokenlogic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Till then I would like to have a pastebin, that lets us set up temporal workspaces, with a simple (! git may be too resource-hungry) history-control, the possibility to take any text from the history, edit it (collab if desired), making it a new revision, and also (!) be able to share pictures and other binaries like PDFs.</p>
<p>For example, right now I hang around on freenode, trying to put together an xsl-fo. I talk with people. We have so much to write in the chan, that could be much more easily expressed in code in a collab editor. In addition I need to post my experimental PDF output so the others see what is going on.</p>
<p>And always keep an API! <img src='http://mybrokenlogic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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